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Analysis: Which Penguins RFAs to Re-Sign, Which to Drop

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Pittsburgh Penguins, Philip Tomasino

Transition might be the most appropriate word to use when describing what the Pittsburgh Penguins are attempting.

General manager Kyle Dubas hopes to smoothly move the team from a roster filled with 30-somethings, whose average age before the transition began was close to 32, to a team that once again has enough young legs to be competitive. Dubas hopes to do so without years of massive losses, fans tuning out, and the hopelessness that often engulfs rebuilds for years.

Of course, to get from here to there, from losing to winning, from old to young, and from afterthought to relevant without a treasure trove of high draft picks will require deft decision making, getting it right on a few mid-tier prospects, making the right call on a few decisions on which there is no apparent right answer.

After Dubas gauges the NHL trade market over the next couple of months, he will have the opportunity to sign more than a handful of restricted free agents. First, the Penguins will need to qualify them before free agency to retain their rights, a fact P.O Joseph learned the hard way last June when the team reversed course on public statements and did not tender him an offer.

Joseph is again one of the RFAs on the Penguins’ list after Dubas re-acquired him via trade from the St. Louis Blues.

The list of five RFAs is as interesting as it is debatable. There isn’t a guaranteed return, nor is there a guaranteed rejection.

One note, money won’t be an issue this summer as the Penguins will have more than enough salary cap space for anything they want to do.

Forwards: Connor Dewar, Philip Tomasino, Vasily Ponomarev

Defensemen: P.O Joseph, Conor Timmins

RFA Projections

Joseph

In conversations with Pittsburgh Hockey Now toward the end of the season, Joseph strongly implied that he would return. He does not want to be one of those hockey vagabonds chasing paychecks, living in city after city. He wants roots in Pittsburgh.

PHN wondered about the feasibility of his return because, clearly, former coach Mike Sullivan had little patience for Joseph. In fact, it wouldn’t take much for Joseph to land in trouble with the coach, as Sullivan seemed to cast Joseph as one of those players who could do no right, rather than do no wrong.

Even Joseph’s successful runs beside Kris Letang seemed to result from Sullivan’s begrudging decisions to use Joseph there. Perhaps no defenseman has played as well beside Letang since Brian Dumoulin’s departure two years ago, yet Joseph-Letang was never the default pairing.

Treating a few players that way was one of Sullivan’s shortcomings.

(Somehow, fans missed this prime example of Sullivan limiting a player, but instead latched onto the older, far more experienced Jesse Puljujarvi as one.)

Joseph, 25, has speed, reach, and good puck movement. And a left-handed stick, which is uniquely in short supply for the Penguins. He has an offensive layer not yet tapped, but he is not a physical defenseman. He plays with good gaps but could be better at the net front battles.

Verdict: Re-sign at a minimum or near-minimum contract. Our gut feeling is that Dubas liked Joseph more than Sullivan, which is why the team traded for him. We also guess that Joseph’s work on the right side this season makes him a versatile defenseman at a small cost who could be unlocked with the confidence brought by a new coach.

Timmins

The Penguins acquired Timmins and Dewar from the Toronto Maple Leafs for merely a fifth-round pick. That’s not a pick for each, but one for both at the trade deadline.

Timmins’s advanced metrics are mediocre. He was even or nearly even in all categories in 50 games with the Toronto Maple Leafs, despite getting nearly an even number of starts in the offensive zone as the defensive zone.

There’s a lot to like about the 6-foot-2, 214-pound D-man. Timmins can be physical near the net, yet still has good puck movement and skating. Sullivan cast him in an unwinnable situation, sometimes playing on the right side with Erik Karlsson pushed onto the left, and sometimes, Timmins was on the left with Karlsson on the right.

It was a weird situation for the two right-handers and one that made little sense for players or the team, yet Sullivan stuck with it to each player’s detriment over the final weeks of the season.

It led to a lot of mistakes by Timmins on both the right and left sides.

Timmins, 26, is arbitration-eligible and due a larger contract than Joseph because of his expiring contract, which carries a $2.2 million salary cap hit.

Verdict: Timmins should be re-signed, but part of the decision might rest on the immediate futures of Letang and Karlsson. The Penguins also have a pair of young right-side defensemen, Jack St. Ivany and Harrison Brunicke, who very well could be ready for full-time work next season.

AFP Analytics estimates his next contract to be two years, at $2.673 million annually.

If Timmins returns, he must play on the right side and with a trustworthy partner. Perhaps then, the Penguins will get a good look at what they’ve got.

Forwards

Ponomarev

Ponomarev, 23, didn’t break through this season as the organization had hoped. In fact, he played a rather dull version of his game at the NHL level that wasn’t worth keeping around. However, he has the immediate potential to be better if the new coach’s system is simpler and taps into his basic skill set.

Verdict: This is an easy one. Re-sign him at the minimum. Ponomarev is a natural center, which is something the Penguins lack, as well as a zippy, physical player who is unfraid of contact, giving or receiving. However, next season will be his make-or-break at the NHL level.

Dewar

Listed at 5-foot-10, 192 pounds, Dewar appears far smaller in person. However, he plays a bigger game. He could replace one of the veterans on the fourth line, forming a nice tandem with center Blake Lizotte. Dewar’s offensive pop with the Penguins was likely a post-trade adrenaline jump, as he had only three assists in 31 games with Toronto before the trade.

Dewar is the scrappy, fast forward who can kill penalties and agitate the opponents. In 17 games with the Penguins, he committed three minor penalties but drew five.

Verdict: Another easy one. Re-sign him for about $1 million.

Tomasino

Sullivan gave Tomasino the long runway that Dubas had asked Sullivan to give him. However, the results were a mixed bag. Tomasino started hot, sniped a few game-winning goals in his first couple of weeks, but then tailed off dramatically.

Tomasino, 23, tallied 11 goals and 12 assists in 50 games. Those are respectable totals for a third-line winger, but for much of his time, he was on the Penguins’ second line with Evgeni Malkin.

Sullivan lauded Tomasino’s effort to become a more complete player, rather than a one-dimensional perimeter player. However, the laundry list of shortcomings to improve that Sullivan would usually rattle off was not insignificant.

Tomasino has a good wrist shot and a knack for scoring, but if he wasn’t scoring, he wasn’t helping the team. AFP Analytics scores him as trending downward, which we agree.

Verdict: Re-sign only under favorable contract terms, which would be close to $1 million. By default, Tomasino is a perimeter player who showed only small improvement from beginning to end. He’s more likely to be demoted to the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins than become a 20-goal scorer.

AFP estimates Tomasino trending downward toward $1.4 million.

In four seasons, he’s not broken 11 goals, which is not enough for a bottom-six winger who doesn’t kill penalties, provide a good forecheck, or add physicality.

Dubas gambled, but the Penguins weren’t able to get what they hoped.

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Mark Connelly
Mark Connelly
12 days ago

Excellent analysis, Dan. My biggest concern is the “deft decision making” required to make this transition to youth as smooth as possible. I keep scratching my head at the signing of Graves to that expensive contract , which in all honesty I liked at the time. Now I question how nobody in the organization saw that Graves just wasn’t a fit in Sullivan’s system. Were Dubas and Sullivan that far apart and isolated from each other when it came to constructing a roster? A team in a salary cap league simply can’t make these kinds of mistakes, and this also… Read more »

Eli
Eli
12 days ago

I’d keep Tomasino another year if it were up to me. The guy flashes some skill every now and then. Maybe a different coaching staff will help him unlock some of that potential. Everybody else on the list you could flip a coin on, really.

Knobman
Knobman
12 days ago

I would re-sign the three forwards and not the defensemen. The D were a terrible group and all of them need to go. Need to start over with trades and signings.

Dean
Dean
12 days ago

Ponomarev and Timmins are the easy yeses for me. I don’t see Tomasino as a 4th liner or a top 6 player. He’s not going to be on the PK. That leaves one spot and little utility. RW on the 3rd line. Joseph is also a difficult decision. I think it will end up being him or Shea as number 7. Dewar would be in the AHL and would be a nice call up.

Matthew Caddy
Matthew Caddy
12 days ago

Ponomarev is the only one I’d sign to anything but the league minimum. Dewar and Timmins would be worth a shot at a low rate but Joseph and Tomasino can kick rocks.

Roderick
Roderick
12 days ago

To be honest I think Joseph should try to find a home elsewhere, but I agree with keeping the rest of them.

W Thome
W Thome
12 days ago
Reply to  Roderick

Agreed. He has a few positive offensive upsides, but he’s way too soft on puck battles.

Rich81
Rich81
12 days ago

Great analysis, Dan. With Shea already under contract, I see the defense group rounding out at the 5-7 positions, and I don’t see a clear fit for Joseph—feels like an area they could look to upgrade. On the forward side, Ponomarev stands out as the most promising of the group. It’ll be interesting to see if the new coaching staff gives him a real opportunity. That said, I could see both him and Tomasino being potential trade pieces this summer, especially in deals involving another team’s RFA. They carry value as lower-cost assets that could sweeten a package. I’m still… Read more »

Jstripsky
Jstripsky
12 days ago

Dear God! Please make this stop! If I have to see these comments in every story, I’ll be dropping my subscription.

Not Mike Sullivan’s Burner Account
Not Mike Sullivan’s Burner Account
12 days ago
Reply to  Jstripsky

Totally agree. It’s gotten ridiculous.

Jstripsky
Jstripsky
12 days ago

What about Joseph with Letang again, but having POJ
providing the offense and allowing Letang to focus on defense. He has shown the ability to do it. Maybe it’s worth the chance IF the price is right.

pensfan77
pensfan77
12 days ago

I’d re-sign everyone expect POJ. I’d let him walk. Dubas should go after a left handed defenseman who is a RFA.

Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
12 days ago

They all get a small qualifying offer. Tomasino may fill in on the top lines if there is an injury and is decent on the pp. None of these guys will be munch more than 1 mil. If they are, let them go to FA and sign for the minimum.

Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
12 days ago

Yeah Dan, what is this? It isn’t bothering me because i can ignore it just like some of the dumb comments. However, it is weird that actual commenters get blocked but this stuff makes it through.

King Penguin
King Penguin
12 days ago

It’s time for the organ-i-zation to do something wise and popular for a change — hire Tocchet as head coach. And have him bring UFAs Boeser and Suter with him.

Last edited 12 days ago by King Penguin
Sen
Sen
12 days ago

Agree on all except Joeseph… he is a lia elite that will only hold back a spot for someone who will develop , he has not in all the years here inconsistent beyond bearable. 2nd Tomosino we’ll worth his crumb salary and developed nicely over the year worth a slight raise and mi imum 1 year more

W Thome
W Thome
12 days ago

Get rid of this crap please.

Mel Reichenbaugh
Mel Reichenbaugh
11 days ago

I would sign Timmons, Dewar and Ponomarev, do not qualify POJ and try to trade Tomasino.

Mel Reichenbaugh
Mel Reichenbaugh
11 days ago

As for Jesse, he was only 26 his entire time here, and it was who was playing ahead of him(Nieto, Glass, Acciari) that made him a sort of a cult hero. Also much was made about Nieto coming back from his knee injury, while Jesse came back from double hip surgery and not as much was written about that.

Jeff Young
Jeff Young
11 days ago

I don’t get the consternation over POJ. He couldn’t cut it here, didn’t get an offer, went elsewhere, got cut, we pick him up and immediately put him on the top pairng and now there’s a question about whether to resign him. It’s obvious. You don’t.

Espo33
Espo33
11 days ago

Joseph is not fast at all. That needs to be corrected. He is an easy pass

George Kilantonis
George Kilantonis
10 days ago

Tomasino was on an 18 goal pace with the Penguins, but it’s more likely he’ll be demoted to the AHL than increase that by 2 goals?

Joshk
Joshk
10 days ago

Dan, I love you but your me too. Of irrational fandom for puljujarvi was kind of ironic in context of your statement of support for PO Joseph. Guy is too light framed, soft on walls and in front of net, gets confused on coverages, and somehow for a player who is supposed to be fast and dynamic routinely looks stiff and slow as wingers blow past him wide like he is a traffic cone at the blue line. I’m meh on Dewar, but no offer to PO and sign everyone else to reasonable deals

Joshk
Joshk
10 days ago
Reply to  Joshk

Mention of, not “me too of”

Dang thick thumbs

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