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Should Penguins Invite a Veteran to Camp on Tryout? If So, Who?

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The Pittsburgh Penguins really didn’t gamble when they invited Brian Boyle to training camp on a professional tryout last fall.

After all, they weren’t risking much more than cost of housing him for as long as he stayed in camp.

Of course, there also was no guarantee that investment would have even a modest return, considering that Boyle was 36 years old and had sat out the previous season.

But Boyle defied the odds, earning a spot on the roster and a contract that paid the league minimum of $750,000. He went on to make a solid contribution throughout the regular season, putting up 11 goals and 10 assists in 66 games and being a core member of one of the NHL’s top penalty-killing units.

And while the Penguins apparently have not tried to bring Boyle back, it’s conceivable that Ron Hextall and his staff would consider inviting some other unaffiliated NHL veterans to participate in their preparations for 2022-23.

Especially when, with just a month to go before training camps open, there is such a large contingent of forwards capable of filling a bottom-six/penalty-killing role available.

The Penguins, of course, already are a bit over the NHL’s salary-cap ceiling of $82.5 million — precisely how much depends on how one configures their roster — and have more than enough candidates to stock their fourth line.

However, a free agent who would earn a contract during camp likely would sign for the league minimum (or close to it), simply because he wouldn’t have the leverage to demand much more. (Remember, these are guys who have been available since mid-July, and still haven’t caught on anywhere.)

What’s more, the Pittsburgh Penguins have four forwards — Danton Heinen, Josh Archibald, Ryan Poehling and Drew O’Connor — who are scheduled to be paid $1 million or less, so his entire salary would come off the NHL books if he were assigned to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

Heinen isn’t a penalty-killer and doesn’t figure to be in the fourth-line mix, while O’Connor is exempt from waivers for another year, but the Penguins would risk losing either of the other two if one or both were sent to the minors.

Whether that’s a gamble Hextall would be interested in taking isn’t known, but if a case could be made that a free-agent invitee has outperformed someone already under contract, would losing the latter really be an issue? Especially when the tryout candidate actually might have a slightly lower cap hit.

The NHL’s relatively stagnant salary cap likely is the primary reason so many capable role players remain on the market; CapFriendly.com puts 14 teams above the ceiling and four more within roughly $1 million (or less) of it.

Clubs have prioritized getting key players under contract — witness the Pittsburgh Penguins giving deals to Kris Letang, Evgeni Malkin, Bryan Rust and Rickard Rakell — and many have exhausted their cap space in the process.

Now, it’s worth pointing out that not everyone on the market today will be a viable tryout candidate in mid-September.

Some will sign a contract before camps open, and others might simply decline to attempt to earn a position via a tryout, especially those who have had a steady job in the NHL for a number of years and who, under normal circumstances, would have been signed weeks ago.

A few might not even care to settle for the kind of salary a player on a tryout can expect to receive if he’s able to play his way onto an NHL roster, although there certainly are less lucrative ways to make a living.

But if Hextall opts to extend a tryout offer or two, here’s a sampling of the guys who might be worth a look, presented in alphabetical order:

Zach Aston-Reese — His inability to capitalize on scoring chances can be exasperating at times, but he’s a reliable defensive winger and quality penalty-killer. The Pittsburgh Penguins obviously know what they could expect from him.

Cody Eakin — A good two-way center who, at 31, has shown he can contribute on a shorthanded unit. He scored 22 goals for Vegas in 2018-19, although such prolific offensive output is an aberration.

Tyler Motte — Motte, 27, plays a high-energy game and is an effective forechecker who can kill penalties and chip in with an occasional goal.

Riley Nash — A standard-issue fourth-liner who kills penalties and is good on faceoffs. And who, at 33, tends to be a stranger on the scoresheet.

Brett Ritchie — He’s been frustratingly inconsistent and doesn’t kill penalties, but Ritchie has size (6-foot-4, 220 pounds) and a penchant for physicality that would add a dimension to the Penguins’ collection of forwards.

Evan Rodrigues — Coming off a 19-goal season that was an 82-game testament to his versatility, Rodrigues still being unsigned is one of the biggest surprises of this free-agency season. He merits a significant increase on his $1 million salary of 2021-22, but probably shouldn’t count on getting it.

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Rich Filardi
Rich Filardi
1 month ago

Sonny Milano?

Jay95
Jay95
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Filardi

I just don’t see a fit. He’s a top 9 forward and pretty useless on the 4th line. With how the team’s constructed, the late season surge by Poulin, young guys like Puustinan and even Nylander, I think the Pens pass. I don’t know if that’s the correct decision as we know that Blueger can produce on a good 4th line. And, Poehling should fit with the Pens too with his skill set. So, Milano or Heinen could give us 4 dangerous lines. And, if we use Kapanen in a PK roll (We REALLY should!!!) There are plenty of PK… Read more »

JAsonC
JAsonC
1 month ago

No question they should try out Cody Eakin! He got size and some jam and some offense no retreads back please!

Vince Gori
Vince Gori
1 month ago

Sentimentally I like ZAR and Boyle (don’t forget Simon). As to your list, Mott and Eakin maybe. ERod is OK, but is worthy of more than a tryout.

Sjf928
Sjf928
1 month ago

I wouldn’t mind Tyler Pitlick. Good size,speed and forecheck.

Wasnt
1 month ago

Erod will probably be snagged up by Vegas. Motte is my pick but I bet a lot of teams will be looking at him also. Since Boyle got injured at the end of last year he might be available for camp to prove himself. I think Jumbo Joe might be around also….not sure. Motte or Boyle I’m hoping for

Rick
Rick
1 month ago

Sorry Dave but no the Penguins don’t need anymore veterans.

When Crosby, Malkin, and Letang were young guns, they needed a veteran presence to steady them, now with those three plus Carter, Zucker, et al over 30, the Penguins need young guns to fill out the rest of the line-up. It is now time to remember how the team brought up Rust, Sundqvist, Kuhnhackl, Sheary, and Murray to win a Cup. It is past time to really give Zohorna, O’Connor, Poulin, Puustenin, and maybe Lindberg real chances to make the squad.

YellowPSnow
YellowPSnow
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

I think Zohorna hasn’t shown his true potential yet. If he makes the openining night roster, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Jstripsky
Jstripsky
1 month ago

I guess we need more veterans on the roster since Sullivan doesn’t want to play young players unless he coached them in WBS. Maybe that’s the solution… send Sullivan down for a few months to work with the youngsters every day and then would be willing to trust them in the NHL later.

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Jstripsky

I think that is a common misconception about Sullivan. He gives the young players an opportunity to play and then when they don’t perform, he cuts their minutes or sends them down. The real problem is that the penguins don’t have any minor leaguers knocking down the door to get to the nhl. The wb/s penguins consist of fringe nhl players, career minor leaguers, and young prospects that are still trying to learn the pro game. Until some of those players start performing at a level that gets them noticed (like in 2016 rust,sheary,guentzel,etc.) they will remain in the minors.

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

The problem here Rob is that when the injury bug hits, those young kids from the minors are called up and the team wins. When the veterans come back from their injuries and the kids get sent down the team becomes mediocre. However, if one believes that none of the kids are performing well enough to stick at the NHL level that means their is either a problem with Scouting or Player development in the Organization. Since Sullivan took over as Head Coach not a single player has risen through the ranks, 0 for 32. The only 2 players that… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

That’s not Sullivan fault the blame is on scouting and player development. Sullivan is the head coach he has to play players that are productive. He has given young players a chance. Sam lafferty played 94 games as a penguin. Drafted in 2014 but left college in 2018 to join the organization and played well when filling in during injuries. Sullivan is literally one of the best coaches in the NHL. So developing young players is a organizational issue. Starting from acquiring players via draft or undrafted free agents finding good value in talent like John marino! But we have… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

First, the point of this discussion is do the Penguins need 1 more veteran on a team full of 30 somethings, and the answer to that is a resounding no! Second, the Coach may not have the final say but he most certainly has some level of input in who is drafted and sign, so he has some control over the players put in front of him. Moreover, under JR, Sullivan almost always got his way over players. Furthermore, the Coach chooses which players’ make the roster and how many times those players skates touch the ice in an NHL… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

We have developed our own players as you have stated guentzel, rust, jarry, blueger all still in their prime. And letang malkin Crosby. We have a core group of players drafted an developed by the team. As for your explanation as the head coach does not have final say on draft picks he has input yes. The GM has final say. And that’s a fact. And yes they have traded assets away for veteran players chasing cups. But who did we give away that turned into a solid NHL player??? So Rutherford has traded first round picks. And then drafted… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Guentzel developed in college not in Pgh. He was pretty much a complete player when he got here. Rust played for the Pens even before Sullivan was the Coach of WBS. He is 30 now. Blueger and Jarry were drafted before Sullivan got here as well, so their development starts before Sullivan. As for who JR traded, he didn’t trade that many kids, mainly draft picks. The only prospects (players playing mainly in WBS or Europe etc. that he traded were Kapanen, Sundqvist, Addison, and Gustavsson. Kapanen was traded for Kessel and is back. Sundqvist helped the Blues win a… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

You have no rational argument guentzel was a finished product in college that’s not true. So your blaming the organization and head coach for no developing players right? But you refuse to give credit to the organization and head coach when the players DO DEVELOP! Guentzel was not a finished product in college that’s not true he was a 3rd round pick and yes hes a star 40 goal scorer hes an anomaly. Rust came up when Sullivan was the coach a young player that developed and got better under the current head coach you cant deny his success with… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Guentzel came out of college in 2015-2016. He was sent to WBS to finish that season off like pretty much most college kids. He started the 2016-2017 season in WBS, sent down because the team rarely gives kids a chance. He only played 33 games before being brought up because of injuries and proceeded to score a couple of goals on Malkin’s LW. He finished the season with 33 points in 40 NHL GP and then 21 Pnts in 25 playoff GP putting his name in the hat for the Conn Smythe. I am pretty sure that signifies in almost… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

So finally some rational. Sullivan does get credit for the development of jake guentzel and he has played young players in the past. Guentzel, rust, sheary, matt murray. To name a few the back to back cup teams were littered with young players given a chance by the head coach. So those are true facts he has played young players and some have developed into star players like jake guentzel who was not a finished product coming out of college but it’s a matter of opinion. And I believe he was put in a position to succeed obviously the rest… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Wow what a leap, Guentzel came complete, he needed no development. Guentzel did not spend enough time in WBS or anywhere to “be developed”. Rust, Murray and all of the important young kids that help win the back-to-back Cups were developed under the old system and played for our Coach when he was Coaching in WBS. The current system was not yet there yet and our Coach did not Coach these new prospects in WBS. As for Sullivan using kids when he came up, that was then, this is now. Over the last 7 years not a single player drafted… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Everyone needs development of some sort or adjustment time. He was productive from day 1 for eventually hes productivity jumped to star status after time. And I’m not going back and forth about this. But I do agree as I have stated before they have wasted draft classes and have yet to developed drafted players. But have acquired other young players to help like Marino and petterson.

Dean
Dean
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

5 -10 minutes of play time in the nhl is nothing. That is not an opportunity.

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Dean

You have to earn your minutes in the NHL. Nothing is given to you.

Brian Calhoun
Brian Calhoun
1 month ago

Rodrigues, a hard no. Undoubtedly, we need a little bit of grit and size and out of the options you listed, Dan, I’d prefer seeing a guy like Richie joining the bottom 6. Second choice would be Eakin.

William Maloni
William Maloni
1 month ago

Ritchie and Rodrigues, and ZAR work for me.

Jack McCrory
Jack McCrory
1 month ago

I think that Boyle added more to this team than the average fan realized last year.

Frank
Frank
1 month ago

When I saw this headline I thought it was “tongue in cheek.” This IS already the oldest team in the league. They are neck deep in veterans and have been for the last five years . .. and that has not worked out all that well. The Penguins need more veterans like the Sahara needs more sand. This group stands a good chance of being blow out by March 1. At that point there will still be more than a month to go in the regular season and then two months of playoffs. That is not a reflection on ability… Read more »

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Frank

I agree that the team needs a little infusion of youth and not more 30 somethings, but these proven veterans are still playing good to great hockey and will not be “blow out by March 1”. Other than the core 3, Carter and Petry, these players are all in their prime years.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

Agree 100% this team is still very good and had a great off season making them better. I don’t understand what hes going on about. Probably just trying to vilify mike Sullivan for lack of player development. And that’s not his fault hes the head coach he has to play players that give them the best chance to win on that day.

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

Peak performance age for NHL skaters has been consistently shown to be 25 and remaining near that performance until about 30 then it drops significantly whether we like that or not, that is what has been shown to be true. For the Forwards, not only are Crosby, Malkin, and Carter but Rust and Zucker are 30 while Rakell and Archibald are knocking on that door at 29. For the Defensemen, Letang, Petry, Rutta, and Ruhwedel are over the 30 mark, with Dumoulin sitting at 30. A little reprieve for Defensemen is that their defensive game doesn’t start failing them until… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

How has it been shown to be true? What statistic says that? Players dont drop off a cliff at 30 that’s not true. I understand why you would say that to strengthen your narrative. But that’s not true. At 30 years old players dont perform well. Well that’s just false. Look at the players at 30,31,32,33,34 that do perform well and at the same level as when they are 25. As for old? Guentzel 27 jarry 27 smith 23 poehling 23 rust 30 dumo 30 petterson 27 blueger 27 mcginn 28 poj 25 kapenen 26 heinen 27. Mid 30’s letang… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Unfortunately there is real research out there. They update it every so often but it doesn’t vary that greatly. Look it up. I don’t have time to spoon feed those refusing to see.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Refusing to see you have no facts statistics or objective analysis. Just you using an vague stat to fit your narrative. The much is obvious! Sorry I came at you with facts and statistics. Your literally on here saying everyone is done by 30. And that’s not true. Like every other comment you posted!

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Actually, the research is there. The field of sport science is very advanced. I know. It is my job to know. You are in knee jerk reaction barely reading and assuming what you wish to argue. I never said a player is over the hill, I said there is a severe drop off in offensive performance after once a skater hits 30. You change the arguments and put words in my mouth in an effort to win. Win what? I have no idea. There are many search engines for you to look up the studies yourself. I am not going… Read more »

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Regardless of any research, this is the team they have. Their prospects and minor leaguers are unproven and have to be considered fringe NHL players at this point. The players they have are better than any of the minor leaguers until one or more of them beat out a veteran for a job and force the hand of management and the coaching staff.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

Perfectly said!

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

Yes Rob this is the team we have in Pgh. Our Coach picks the team. And yes the prospects and minor leaguers are unproven because they haven’t been given a chance to prove themselves. As I wrote, everyone, including the veterans need to earn their spots. This years roster spots should not be determined by what someone did last season or where they accomplished it, but on what they are doing now.

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

If players aren’t given a chance, its because they haven’t earned it. For example, O’Connor made the team last training camp but then his performance quickly dipped. He wasn’t immediately sent down but had his minutes cut, then eventually Sully had to replace him in the lineup so he was sent down. Had he seized his opportunity and continued to play well he would have stayed in the lineup. It was like what, his second pro season? That is encouraging that he has already made the team and got some call ups, but such players need more time in the… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

I am not necessarily a Drew O’Connor proponent but his 5 on 5 play was not that measurably different than Brock McGinn’s, Jason Zucker, Jeff Carter, E-Rod’s (by the time the season ended) relative to 60 minutes and better than a lot of the other bottom 6 veterans,

As I said, I agree that players need to earn their ice time, but htat goes not only for prospects but veterans.

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

I’m not trying to win anything. And put no words in your mouth! I’m educated enough to understand what your meaning is. And I have read statistics on players at 30 they are disproved and flawed. And I’m aware of the advanced sports science field. I played D1 college baseball and minor league baseball. Sports science is not the be all end all in the conversation of athlete performance. I’ve personally seen it disproved several times over. And it’s my job to evaluate player ability. Player development and as well as statistical analysis. So I’m just making a rational counter… Read more »

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Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

I am not talking about statistics I am talking about research. I have work at all levels of human performance with all levels of people from clinical to Olympic hopeful and everything in between. I have assisted in research and have taught. I have also encounters many people that don’t want to know the answers but want opinion to rule over fact. If you are so rational then go and look up the research on human performance and aging. Sidney Crosby and 34 may be better than Dominik Simon at 27 but Sidney Crosby at 34 is not better than… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Of course bodies change with age. That is a fact. But performance does not necessarily decline. And that is also a fact. So it’s not opinion I dont need to research it. I work with guys like you everyday. As part of my job. Yes people age. But it’s not necessarily affect performance on the field or ice or court. Not a matter of opinion I have I asked our guy this afternoon after reading this.

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Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Also if a player stays in great shape workout keeps his body right. Hes capable of performing well into his late 30’s that’s also a proven fact. People who have never played sports just look at numbers and say this isn’t possible or likely. But it happens all the time. Perhaps why letang got a big contract. And kadri as well at 31 got a 7 yrs deal. So its possible to stay productive well into your 30’s if you stay in shape and some get better and wiser with age. The body may not be the same as 25… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

But not like he did when he was 25. When Crosby was 25 his pnts/60 5 on 5 was 4.2 at 34 it was 2.23. that is effectively 1/2. From 20 – 25 Crosby’s pnts/60 ranged from 3.37 to 4.84. From age 30 – 34 his numbers are ranging from 1.84 – 2.92. Similarly Malkin and Letang have followed that decline in production. It is a fact that you can stay in good, even great shape, but not your best shape. If you were elite you drop to Great, if great to good, if good, to below avg. If elite… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

That’s completely flawed logic. And not true. All are still elite and productive. Including kris letang best statistical season of his career at 35. Again your using certain statistics to fit the narrative that all 3 players are in decline. But their performance says otherwise. And you say its impossibility to be the same in your 30’s as in your 20’s. You said any argument to the contrary is opinion right??? Okay tom brady is 45!! Lebron james is 37. Their are players all across professional athletics in their 30’s still performing at elite levels. As I will agree our… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

It’s a very inquisitive conversation that I’m enjoying. But you just called sidney Crosby a marginal aging player. And that’s ridiculous sometimes it’s more than just statistics hes the captain there are intangibles that anyone who has played or coached would understand are more than just certain statistics. Some statistics are completely flawed like plus minus. As I said earlier statistical analysis is not the be all end all. Part of my job is statistical analysis lol There are many other intangibles to consider. Especially in athletics. More to just statistics there’s a human element like heart determination leadership. Statistics… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

No I didn’t. I said he has aged and is not the Sidney Crosby he was at 25. He is not as productive 5 on 5 at 34 as he was in his prime. Furthermore, I am not talking about dumping Crosby in favor of Evan Rodrigues, I am talking about not signing marginal veteran players rather than giving those roster spots to home grown kids and let them sink or swim with legitimate TOI, not whistle stops and not only in emergencies You made serious leaps to suggest that I was saying Crosby was marginal. Heart and determination from… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Again I made no such leaps! I just read your comment. And young players who may never be stars over proven veteran production. It’s not going to happen on a team trying to win a Stanley cup. Especially a veteran team. Your implication is what a rebuilding team usually do they play young players and hope to develop them into regular contributors. And as I’ve stated before the penguins have done that. They have drafted poor in the past few years. But poj 22 smith 23 poehling 23 guentzel 27 kapenen 26 petterson 26 jarry 26 blueger 27 o’conner 23… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

You most certainly misread my comment. All I wrote was that even our own Sidney Crosby has experienced a decline in performance and illustrated his decline in performance with the facts of his Point Production comparing his 25th year to his 34 year and then comparing the overall point production from 20-25 and 30-34 to illustrate that his 25th year and 34th year were not simply anomalous outliers that indeed his production has declined. Nowhere in that statement is there an inference that Crosby is a marginal aging veteran. And no, all three are still top players not elite. For… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Okay first. I was responding about players over the age of 30 and your remarks that players are done at 30 or decline. My last comment and with the help of my colleague sports science. I was using tom brady lebron james and several others to show that a player doesnt decline at 30. Jaromir jagr for example. I have responded to all of your comments as they were. And if I misunderstood any I apologize. But I answered all those comments as they were! Was not talking about star players just players over 30.that a player could still be… Read more »

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Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

My second response please read my first. I cant edit my other comment. I would play young players on the 4th line before a player like Archibald I would give a younger player a chance before adding a depth piece. Meaning O’Conner I would play him over Archibald or I would play poehling I dont think we need more depth guys. But so far looks like one spot available on the 4th line wing. So I personally would add a brian boyle or rodrigues but I would stop there. I think we have a few guys who can develop on… Read more »

Rick
Rick
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil

Apparently we are at least close to agreement on the original intent of this past and thread, the Penguins don’t really need to sign anymore players; trade? maybe, but sign, no. However, as to your age decline, I would love to discuss in physiological terms why your sports science colleague thinks that players don’t don’t decline with age and why they think Brady at 45 is the same as Brady at 40, is the same as Brady at 35, is the same as Brady at 30, is the same Brady at 25, from a physical stand point. And more importantly… Read more »

Phil
Phil
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

I will pass it along. As I’ve stated before yes there are statistics to support decline in age and there are some that dont. Your using one statistical category to evaluate players performance. But Tom brady is still a very productive player and a mvp candidate the last 2 years. Age 44 and 45. His production has stay very similar to his whole career. Players have up and down years statistically even a player in his prime. Statistics vary. So again many players in their mid to late 30’s have productive and successful years. Paul Goldschmidt is on a massive… Read more »

Paul
Paul
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick

Not only will this team continue to have significant health problems because of advanced age, but they won’t have much left in the tank come playoff time. The sooner that the brains of the operation connect the dots, the better the franchise will be for it.

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Frank
Frank
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

Well .. . I guess time will tell. But as a reminder “other than the core 3 . . . .” includes the top 3 centers and two of the top 3 defensemen. Those 5 will probably play substantially more minutes than the next 5. I hope minimizing any concern about that works out but it sort of reminds me of ” . .. so aside from that Mrs. Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?” The Penguins seem to have a theory that the older a player gets the faster, stronger, bigger and less susceptible to fatigue and injury… Read more »

Rob
Rob
1 month ago
Reply to  Frank

Dan/Dave, the topic of this comment thread would make an excellent story. Is the average age of the penguins going to hurt them? Also, where do they rank as far as oldest team in the league? Maybe compare to recent cup winning teams? Are all if their players past their “prime”?

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Jim
Jim
1 month ago

James Neal on the cheap

Fredrick
Fredrick
1 month ago

A tryout wouldn’t hurt. If they show to be a better option than what we have, then they sign with us. If not then we don’t have to sign them. I am quite alright with any PTO tryout.