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Penguins Trade Talk: Teams Have Called About P.O Joseph

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After our thorough review of the Pittsburgh Penguins’ coming decision with top prospect P.O Joseph, a couple of external sources admitted there was more to the Joseph story, which could impact some of the NHL trade chatter this summer.

An NHL source with direct knowledge admitted the New York Islanders did some poking around before the NHL trade deadline and graded Joseph well.

The 2020-21 season was a shortened season write-off for most AHL players. Joseph played in 23 games, not exactly a treasure trove of development opportunities. The season was barely salvageable with taxi squads, quarantines, and limited travel. Joseph had 13 points (1-12-13), but followed up with growth this season.

In 61 AHL games, Joseph was on point. He had 10 goals and 23 assists for 33 points and was the top defenseman for the WBS Penguins.

Scouts have noticed.

In addition to one Metro scouting department, which graded Joseph well, the scuttle in the scouting community was the Montreal Canadiens checked in on Joseph before the NHL trade deadline, too.

“He ends plays and then distributes the puck up ice. I’ve seen him neutralize three-on-ones without the other team even sniffing a chance,” said a professional source who has watched Joseph. “…for whatever reason seems very timid about asserting himself (in the offensive zone).”

Joseph will turn 23-years-old on July 1 and next season will no longer waiver-exempt. So, he must remain on an NHL roster or be fair game on the waiver wire. The Penguins’ decision is a complicated one.

Of course, Montreal is an attractive potential suitor. Joseph is a Laval, QC native who played junior hockey in the QMJHL. Montreal loves its native sons. The dots are easy to connect to the rebuilding Canadiens, who also possess a potential replacement should the Pittsburgh Penguins lose top defenseman Kris Letang.

Montreal’s top right-side defenseman, Jeff Petry, put himself on the NHL trade block before the mid-season purge. Ownership fired GM Marc Bergevin and coach Dominque Ducharme in favor of new GM Kent Hughes and eventually head coach Marty St. Louis.

After St. Louis took over, Petry reportedly reconsidered his trade request.

Should circumstances shove Penguins GM Ron Hextall into replacing Letang, the 34-year-old Petry would be an obvious potential replacement.

Knowing that Montreal valued Joseph enough to inquire only adds another dimension to the coming summer decisions.

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Mike Donnelly
Mike Donnelly
2 months ago

Letang and Petry about the same age. Letang career +100, Petry career -131

Kris
Kris
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Donnelly

Exactly. Not sure why Dan here is so enamored with Petry. Guy sucks. Please no. and let’s find a trade partner for POJ now before someone realizes he is another Pettersson featherweight.

Bob
Bob
2 months ago

I’ve never seen a bunch of defensemen who took such a beating physically during the season and hardly returned the favor. Even the offense.Look at the abuse Marino took in the Ranger series. Letang at least through some hits and Matheson as well. I remember when they had fighters/Goons on their team they weren’t abused as much especially the Star players. Time to get some toughness on this team who likes to get physical and wear the other teams down or at least forecheck more along the boards to create plays and scoring chances more or find defensemen who can… Read more »

Knobman
Knobman
2 months ago
Reply to  Bob

Agree 100%. I would look at a complete overhaul of the D and this is the time to do it. I would trade for Chychrun. Send AZ the 2022 first, the 2023 second, POJ, and hopefully Matheson. AZ wants picks, but they still need to take on salary. I would trade for JT Miller and send Vancouver the 2024 first, Marino, and the rights to Kapanen. You replace Letang and Malkin and clear the cap space of Matheson and Marino. I would try and trade Pettersson and Dumo, too. I would look to sign UFAs Chiarot, Lyubushkin, and Rutta or… Read more »

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Moose
Moose
2 months ago

No. They need to get younger and cheaper, not load up on more expensive vets who are past their prime. They won two cups by infusing the line up with young legs and energy. Let the kids play!

Eric Bouchard
Eric Bouchard
2 months ago

OH PLzzzzzzzzzzz i saw him play for a couple of years. He’s not worth 6M per year and …SUCKS…badly. They dont need Petry .

Tom
Tom
2 months ago

Dumoulin, Petersson, Joseph for Drouin, 1st

Dan N
Dan N
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

The first overall pick in the draft ???? I want what your smoking my friend…and lots of it

Kris
Kris
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Another expert internet GM. “here take our garbage and give us your gold”. Done.

Tom
Tom
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Montreal also has the 26th pick in the 1st round. That’s the pick to which I was referring. I know there is no way they include the first, but their other one is more reasonable? Perhaps not?
Might be a pipe dream. I doubt any other team helps our cap situation, but here’s hoping.
Seeing a team that we outplayed, seemingly on the way to the way to the finals, stings a bit.
Oh well, doesn’t look promising.

Fredrick
Fredrick
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

Might as well send Drouin for Zucker. They both played just as many games the past 3 seasons

Brandon O
Brandon O
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom

So.. trade our entire LD depth, while still unsure if we even resign letang… for a 26th pick and 1 year of Drouin who hasn’t done anything in 4 years? We already have Zucker for the same cap hit and position who is arguably better and certainly more proven. We could resign rakell for the same $ to fill that spot for free. If you’re talking about a cap dump, we could definitely clear pettersson or dumoulin without giving up our best d prospect. A late 1st will get us another Joseph at best, and 3+ years of development takes… Read more »

Tom
Tom
2 months ago
Reply to  Brandon O

You make a good point to my comment. A late 1st is another 3+ years of development.
We are obviously in the win-now mode, especially if we resign Malkin and Letang.
Do you think we’d be ok to trade both Dumoulin and Petersson as cap dumps? Or would that hurt too much of our depth?
Do Dumoulin and Petersson have value to other teams? Or would they consider them more of a cap dump and want a sweetener?

Mikey
Mikey
2 months ago

The season that we had Ryan Reeves had to be the best year in the last 20 where we lost the least amount of man games to injury. Someone please look it up. If that doesn’t say we need a deterrent to the cheapshots, what does?

Rich Filardi
Rich Filardi
2 months ago

If I am moving Joseph, I want a hockey trade and an asset around the same age back and development- not an old head with salary.

Fredrick
Fredrick
2 months ago
Reply to  Rich Filardi

Agreed! We need to balance this roster. If we resign Malkin and Letang we should be trying to bring in some younger players as well. We need a youth movement. If you are going to trade away arguably our top prospect. Then you should be going after bigger names (Bertuzzi), and younger names. Not older talent which hasn’t been playing well.

Lars Nelson
Lars Nelson
2 months ago

You have to start POJ this year and let him get used to the NHL even on the third line. You have to trade a D like Peterssen to get some cap space.

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