PHN Blog: Squashing Penguins Rumors
There are significant rumors and continued rumblings surrounding the Pittsburgh Penguins.
However, they’re not true.
Some aren’t even close.
Hey, we live in a post-truth world. Facebook is especially responsible because anyone can create a “news” outlet and blast away to tens of thousands of people. Inexplicably Facebook will suggest these sites to thousands of users who use Facebook as their primary news-gathering source. The story spreads, people begin discussing it on Twitter, Instagram, and text, and before you know it, it seems real.
So, before the next Super Hockey Rumors or Fantastic News of Hockey springs up, let’s squash the latest Penguins’ rumors.
Tomas Tatar:
No less than a dozen people have commented, DM’d, and publicly asked this writer about Tatar. Many, many more have taken the stories to heart.
“I keep hearing we’re going after Tatar,” one earnest questioner tweeted to us.
Here’s how this works. Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman did, in fact, speculate that Tatar could be on the Penguins’ radar. The winger has a lot going for him. He had 20 goals last season. He’s only 32 and can be a pretty good scoring winger on a good team.
There’s no reason to downplay Tatar’s talent.
However, Friedman commented following a few days of Penguins news, beginning with Jake Guentzel’s ankle surgery and ending with the Penguins’ trade for Erik Karlsson. At the time, many wondered how long Guentzel would be out.
The Penguins’ press release indicated Guentzel “would be re-evaluated in 12 weeks.”
That wording doesn’t exactly guarantee a return to play in 12 weeks. However, Penguins president of hockey operations/GM Kyle Dubas sounded an optimistic tone in his press conference this week.
“Jake is projected to miss, I think, it’s (until) late October, early November, and we don’t have a lot of games in that early stretch … So I think it’s in that third or fourth week of the season where he’s projected to be re-evaluated, then a decision will be made. We’re hopeful it goes well, of course, but we want to make sure he’s 100% ready to roll when he comes back,” Dubas said.
Guentzel could miss more time, but Dubas’s optimism should tell us there’s a pretty good chance that Guentzel will not miss months of NHL action.
Complicating any notion the Penguins could be hot on Tatar’s trail is the pesky salary cap. Without Guentzel on LTIR or projected to miss months, the Penguins can’t sign another NHL player and remain under the salary cap.
After the Karlsson trade, the Penguins’ salary cap structure is improved but still tight. PuckPedia.com shows the Penguins $220,658 under the cap.
CapFriendly.com still shows the Penguins about $79,000 over the cap because CapFriendly has Rem Pitlick on the NHL roster. PuckPedia wisely moved one of the lower-priced veteran free-agent signings onto the roster instead.
The second hurdle to the rumor’s validity is Dubas shrugging away questions that he might try to add another prominent contributor via free agency. Dubas conceded to reviewing players worthy of professional tryouts and that the staff would spend a few days looking over the remaining free agents for bargains. However, he even laughed a little at the thought the Pegnguins could make another splash.
“I think this will be the group. With Granlund going out and two defensemen going out (in the Karlsson trade), I do think that we’ve kind of (looked at) in the last 24 hours the remaining free agents in terms of whether they are guys who want to sign on or even professional tryouts that think this could be a great squad for them to come in,” said Dubas. “So we’re sorting through that. I think if there’s more (moves), it will be in that vein more than anything big.”
Yet blog after Facebook “news outlet” picked up the same Tatar story using the same quote. Even Friday, days after Dubas spoke, there was a circulating news report furthering the noise “connecting the Penguins to Tatar.”
The greatest problem is every story used Friedman’s now outdated quote. There hasn’t been a credible report connecting the Penguins to Tatar, and Friedman’s comment was simply a hockey person’s speculation.
Update: Several readers have sent a Slovakian news story from several days ago in which Tatar admitted speaking with the Penguins at some point this summer. However, Tatar didn’t elaborate on when the talks occurred.
Jaromir Jagr
This one is almost embarrassing to confront, but it has to be done because, like people who panicked in the streets during Orson Wells’s famous War of the Worlds broadcast, sometimes people confuse fiction and reality.
It was a joke.
It was a joke made by a fun and humorous account, but a Facebook rumor rag known as Hockey Feed is really pushing this one. A check of their Facebook feed shows they’ve done multiple stories on it. You’d think even a Facebook page would know the difference, but perhaps accuracy isn’t the goal.
Sources close to #LetsGoPens GM Kyle Dubas have confirmed that he is in late-stage negotiations to sign former Penguin Jaromir Jagr to a 1 year league-minimum deal. pic.twitter.com/KnszOhEtCF
— Penguins Jesus (@PenguinsJesus) August 6, 2023
Hey, we like Penguins Jesus, and usually, he likes us. He was making a JOKE. Not report. Bad Facebook rumor people, bad!
Yes, there is a great chance Jaromir Jagr will appear in a Penguins jersey this season. It won’t be during a game but before it, as his iconic No. 68 jersey goes to the rafters beside Mario Lemieux’s No. 66 and Michel Briere’s No. 21.
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I don’t think anyone really believed the Hagr thing. It’s always fun to talk about him though
What about the articles and Tweets coming from Slovakian news outlets & hockey insider Tomáš Prokop on Twitter, that interviewed Tatar at a press conference after he won the Slovak Player of the Year Award? In that Tweet and the article Tatar himself admitted to being in talks with Pittsburgh. When asked specifically about if he is in talks with Pittsburgh and if he would enjoy playing with Karlsson, Crosby and Malkin he said: “It was (Pittsburgh), but I don’t want to develop it further. I want to keep it to myself. I said a couple of times who I was communicating… Read more »
I have no doubt the Penguins and Tatar spoke, but as Dubas said, — ““I think this will be the group.”
It is summer. People are desperate for something hockey to talk about. Some people even become braggadocios when something they guessed became reality. I am not sure if Tatar comes to the Pens or not. He will end up somewhere at a discount. What we can count on is a sports reporter somewhere guessed right and they will make a big deal about how they had the finger on the pulse of what was going to happen. LOL
And if I guess right, I’m pounding the table and banging the gong for weeks!
You deserve to. That makes it fun!
You know what they say about blind squirrels.
Dubas also said Petry would be a big part of the team next year.
That’s fair. By the same token, if Montreal didn’t take Petry (seemingly with the intent to move him), the Karlsson trade doesn’t get done and Petry is going to be a big part of the team…
I’m always wary of both foreign articles that have to be translated into English, and players doing an interview in English when it is not their native tongue. There are simply too many subtleties and nuances that get lost or missed, and they can really change the meaning.
But Dan! If it’s on the internet it has to be true!!
Wait a second… Isn’t this a site on the Inernets? This house of cards looks shaky
I can’t believe KD is done. Tanger and EK are 36 and 33 with significant injury histories in recent years. If either misses an extended period, the D is up Schitts Creek. Ruhwedel and Friedman as the #3 on the right side moving up to absorb the injured player’s minutes? LOL. Separate issue…how to handle POJ and Smith? Who sits in the box and watches? No, I think KD is looking to move 1 of those 2 in a hockey trade to bring in another RHD. We’ll see.
I am shocked that Smith wasn’t included in the Karlsson deal. He will be #7 on the depth chart and play when there is an injury. Joseph played well enough to solidify the 3rd pair LHD. I also would like a better RHD for the 3rd pair. Not much out there and not much cap space for the Penguins.
Maybe KD can move Carter to free up cap space. Two weeks ago, that notion was laughable, now it is not too far-fetched.
That would be a miracle. Carter apparently just bought a house so i dont think he will agree to go anywhere, even if Dubas found a taker for him
I can dream, can’t I?
“Carter apparently just bought a house” and I heard on the BiggerPockets blog that he’s trying to flip it to EK.
That’s interesting. I just remember in one of the Q & A segments that Carter just bought a home, so weird that he is immediately trying to sell it.
Anything is possible. And there are scenarios by which Tatar could become a Penguin, but as noted in the story, the rumor stories that spread were based on a single speculation not reporting, and for a week they were based on the same sentence from Friedman.
Man this story aged like milk lol
Post truth huh. How ironic coming from a democrat.
Are you one of those people who assumes everyone who doesn’t wear a red hat is a Democrat? That was a pretty dumb comment.
Zing
Don’t you believe everything you read on the internet.
– Ben Franklin