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Something isn’t right. Maybe you’ll see the same incongruity with the news and reality. Elliotte Friedman poured a bucked of cold water on NHL trade rumors between the Pittsburgh Penguins and Vancouver Canucks, mainly putting the termination of talks on the Penguins. Also, Penguins head coach Mike Sullivan stuck with his changes, including Marcus Pettersson out and Mark Friedman in the lineup. Lastly, are the Edmonton Oilers rethinking their push for a goalie, as Toronto realizes they need one?

The NHL trade deadline “week” finally began on Monday night, and Auston Matthews was suspended for two games for his cross-check in the Heritage Classic.

Colorado: The Colorado Avalanche splashed around in the NHL trade pool. They snagged Josh Manson from the Anaheim Ducks for a collegiate defenseman who was a 2019 second-round pick and a 2023 second-rounder. Anaheim ate 50% of Manson’s salary. Did Colorado pay too much? Colorado Avalanche analysis.

Now to the Pittsburgh Penguins trade smatterings and News:

PHN analysis dumped cold water on trading John Marino before the NHL trade deadline because the Penguins defense on the right side wasn’t deep enough to sustain the loss. Elliotte Friedman is now reporting Penguins GM Ron Hextall pulled out of trading Marino or Marcus Pettersson.

If Friedman’s report is correct, maybe sources are throwing cold water to buy some time or raise the price (it happens)?

Pittsburgh Hockey Now: Are you as surprised as I am? Pettersson is a $4 million defenseman battling for his spot in the lineup. Sullivan kept Mark Friedman in the regular line rushes and Pettersson skating as an extra. Pittsburgh Penguins news.

Sullivan’s changes opened the door for Hextall to maneuver. They’re tailor-made to give Hextall options for the NHL trade market.

I think Mark Friedman (not Elliotte) has earned a spot in the Penguins lineup. His speed and willingness to jump into the play are an upgrade. His feistiness (read: pot stir) is delivering power-play chances. I just realized–I’ll be writing an entire column on the matter, perhaps today.

More NHL Trade Chatter & News:

Sportsnet: Here are the bargain forwards to watch at the NHL trade deadline and the scouts’ opinion of them.

TSN: This made me smirk–one hour after analysts reported the Edmonton Oilers might rethink their goalie hunt, Jammie McLennan said it was paramount the Oilers hit the NHL trade block for a goalie.

Montreal Hockey Now: Ben Chiarot is a hot commodity. Does the Manson trade affect his value as the deadline approaches? Montreal Canadiens analysis.

San Jose Hockey Now: What might a Tomas Hertl trade look like? San Jose wants to sign the forward, but it’s not happened yet. The Penguins are a good fit, as are a handful of other Eastern Conference teams. Sheng Peng looked at trade proposals, including asking me to play Penguins GM. San Jose Sharks trade chatter.

Boston Hockey Now: No, really? Will they keep Jake DeBrusk? Really? Boston Bruins trade rumors.

And here’s your funny story for the day, as if the trade deadline buffet didn’t wet your whistle.

NYI Hockey Now; Kyle Palmieri had a hat trick on his stick. An open net. And…John Gibson made a diving save. What Palmieri yelled to Gibson cracked me up. New York Islanders news.

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Rich Filardi
Rich Filardi
2 months ago

Patience is only good if its backed by wisdom. Hextall-IMO is not the right GM for this organization.

ThePenguin71
ThePenguin71
2 months ago
Reply to  Rich Filardi

I think he is the perfect GM for this organization. This team has had better chemistry over the past two years than it had under GMJR. The Penguins don’t need a big splashy move. They need another winger, and that’s about it. Even if this team went out and acquired one or two big names at the deadline, I am not sure if that puts them ahead of Carolina, Florida, Tampa, or Colorado.

Katz
Katz
2 months ago

If the Penguins cannot come to terms with Rust, Malkin or Letang, why not at least explore what a long term contract with Miller would cost? Miller is 29 and probable could get a 4 year deal at $6 million . Malkin leaving saves 9 million. And if you could find a sucker, buyer for Kapanen for a prospect and a 2nd Round pick the math gets better. I just feel a Miller and freed up Cap is better than resigning an injury prone aged Malkin.

Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
2 months ago
Reply to  Katz

My preference would be to keep Malkin, but if their plan is not to sign him, why not start exploring a trade to replace him? I read that Miller isn’t available, but you have the right idea. I feel like they don’t have a plan and they are making it up as they go along. There may have been concern about Malkins knee. His play has erased that. So what is the hold up now? If i were the gm i would have signed all 3(Letang, Malkin, Rust) by now. All 3 are among the best point producers at their… Read more »

ThePenguin71
ThePenguin71
2 months ago

The plan is clearly to resign Malkin and Letang in the offseason. If Letang leaves, they will resign Rust.

ThePenguin71
ThePenguin71
2 months ago
Reply to  Katz

Because it is a dumb idea. How do you replace Malkin or Letang? The Penguins don’t have to come to agreements with their big pending FAs now. By the way, no one is going to give a second-round pick and a prospect for Kapanen.

Paul
Paul
2 months ago

So they’re gonna stand pat and hold Sid hostage because of Marino/Petterssen? Really? Boeser (five years younger than Rust) or Miller (gritty, physical and still in his prime) is worth the risk/reward. Bring in Chiarot as a possible rental, and this team is capable of a final four berth. Nearly $30 mil in salary can be dumped this summer even after the Simon extension.

Last edited 2 months ago by Paul
Jason.C
Jason.C
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Boeser is not gritty or physical that’s not his game he is a taller version of Jake

Paul
Paul
2 months ago
Reply to  Jason.C

I don’t see any mention of Boeser as a physical player. He’s a goal-scorer with a lethal shot and 30-goal potential alongside a talented center. And like I pointed out, he’s much younger than Rust. If you’re gonna pay big for a sniper, gimme the guy in his mid-20s over the one in his early 30s. And this comes from a Rust fan.

Last edited 2 months ago by Paul
Jeff Young
Jeff Young
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul

You had me until “Simon extension” 🙂

Paul
Paul
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Young

Um, I think I was three-quarters-joking.

Last edited 2 months ago by Paul
Jason.C
Jason.C
2 months ago

Come on Dan wheres the good news? I would trade Petterson or Marino for a guy like JT Miller and also add Luke Schen You also have Friedman that’s playing well

P-ter
P-ter
2 months ago
Reply to  Jason.C

Would Vancouver really accept Pettersson or Marino for JT Miller. I wouldn’t take that deal. Looks like Petterrson is another healthy scratch again tonight against Nashville. We’ll see where this all shakes out but I’m sure the Penguins will add a bigger middle six forward and possibly swap out a D for another D. They’ll need at least 7 Defense going into the playoffs in case someone gets nicked up.

Last edited 2 months ago by P-ter
Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
2 months ago
Reply to  Jason.C

I think either you are under-valuing Miller or over-valuing Marino and Petterson.

Jason.C
Jason.C
2 months ago

some people shouldn’t assume before knowing . If you’re keeping up that’s who Vancouver is interested in particularly Marino obviously it would include a prospect and a high draft pick.

Last edited 2 months ago by JcNorthStar
Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
2 months ago
Reply to  Jason.C

Vancouver said they aren’t moving miller. Moving marino would create a hole on rhd.

P-ter
P-ter
2 months ago

I’d like to see the Penguins add Lawson Crouse at the trade deadline. He’s a bigger and grittier version of Jeff Carter.

Chris R
Chris R
2 months ago

Love these skilled agitators like Friedman and Bunting. They’re so fun to watch.

Frank
Frank
2 months ago

Regardless of what they say I have to think the team is lukewarm on Marino and Pettersson. I like Friedman . . . so far. Time will tell. P.O. has to “show me.” So far he looks OK, in his short stints, but for the most part very ordinary. They could have easily pulled off the Manson deal that Colorado did yesterday and added some size and depth. With Anaheim picking up half of his salary he is affordable. He is 6’3″ and 220 lbs. That blueline of theirs looks too fragile for any thoughts of an extended playoff run.… Read more »

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