Penguins
What’s the Goal Here? Penguins Badly Need Shakeup, Immediately
Skipping the pretense and long setup, the Pittsburgh Penguins have been in trouble and remain in trouble. Their inability to rise for 7 p.m. faceoffs or finish games in which they have a lead has become destructive. Watching the mental meltdowns and disappearing acts surely grows tiresome for even those on the inside, and the team is in desperate need of a shakeup.
More specifically, a shakeup trade. Urgently. Jim Rutherford style.
“Inexcusable,” Marcus Pettersson called the stunningly poor performance Monday night in the Penguins’ 7-1 loss. One loss wouldn’t sting nearly as much if it were an isolated or rare occurrence. However, the Penguins already have a handful of them this season.
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They were skated out of their own building by the Carolina Hurricanes before taking off on a four-game Western Canada trip. The Edmonton Oilers badly outclassed them, and the Vancouver Canucks overran them after the Penguins grabbed a 2-0 lead.
Monday, coach Mike Sullivan sternly compared the Penguins’ resplendent win against Washington to their most recent embarrassing loss.
“We stayed on the right side of the attack. We had numbers back. You know, we didn’t make high-risk plays in the top half of the offensive zone that allows teams to transition and give easy offense,” Sullivan said of the win in Washington. “Essentially, we didn’t beat ourselves. Because what I just discussed is how you beat yourself. And tonight, we certainly didn’t replicate that.”
Oh, and they were taken behind the woodshed by the New York Rangers when optimism and emotions were high on opening night, 6-0. This season has been more of the same for the Penguins, who have picked up where they left off for the first 67 games last season: a team with historic talent at the top of the lineup but succumbs to their worst often and ultimately lacks the fire to bring their best with any consistency.
Kyle Dubas
General manager Kyle Dubas stated his goal was to get the team back to contender status and admitted that he would have to do things to build for the future while the team is trying to win today. He accepted that dichotomy as part of the job.
However, Sidney Crosby signed a two-year extension under the pretense that the team would retool on the fly and would remain competitive. A 6-9-2 record is not competitive.
So, what is the goal here?
If Dubas is OK with the losing so he gets his hands on a coveted top-five draft pick, the Penguins are well on their way. At the 20% mark, the Penguins have just six wins in 17 games. They’re on pace for a 24-win, 56-point season 30 win, 70 point season, which would place them in the bottom few teams.
But is that really the plan? Dubas didn’t intentionally toss his team an anchor when they wanted a life jacket but that’s been the result.
Is the championship core OK with this? Surely, they cannot be. The exasperation and hurt in Sidney Crosby’s voice was readily apparent Monday night as he tried to answer for his team skipping out on the bill once again.
No, if the people in charge are held to their word, the Penguins need to make changes, NOW. Today is the ideal day for a shakeup trade to let the locker room know their performances are more casual and underwater than Captain Nemo’s Nautilus.
There are players available and teams hunting to make a trade. Nashville, Montreal, and Buffalo are reportedly three such teams and Dubas has personally scouted all three in the last week.
Let’s be blunt: Dubas’s moves in the first year or more of his tenure have not turned around the Penguins’ fortunes, and the moves have been far more bad than good. The Erik Karlsson trade was both his opus and albatross, as he shed terrible salaries, which were saddled upon him by former GM Ron Hextall, in an extraordinarily creative trade. Yet Karlsson’s play has been stunningly below his abilities.
In his second summer, Dubas stockpiled castoff free agents and trade targets who came with draft picks. The trade strategy may well land him a solid player or two in five years (because he only got second and third-round picks over the next few years), but Kevin Hayes and Cody Glass haven’t made an impact. Free agents Anthony Beauvillier and Matt Grzelcyk haven’t fared much better, and in fact, Grzelcyk has been a soft spot on the very important top pairing.
Dubas also traded his top prospect, center Brayden Yager, for Rutger McGroarty, who has two points (1-1-2) and is a minus-5 in his first nine AHL games. Most expected McGroarty to be part of the Penguins youth movement this season, but his skating has submarined his hockey IQ and ability to score at the professional level.
And so the Penguins are floundering—badly. The attempted reinforcements have been anchors, not sails, and Crosby needs help. If the organization is serious and true to its word about supporting Crosby in hopes that he will lead the organization’s transition from his era to the next, immediate action is required. This isn’t what anyone signed up for.
It’s time for Dubas to throw caution to the wind, send a jolt through the locker room, and rattle some cages. He can plan for 2028 another day. This day requires a Penguins shakeup and maybe sacred cows to be slaughtered, or we’re going to witness more beatdowns with alarming frequency, with no end in sight.
Jarry need to start. It’s obvious Sullivanis being difficult with him.
Sullivan needs to do something quick
It looks like they are playing to get their coaches fired.
You’re not the only one to say that–someone I trust said same. It doesn’t jibe with what i’ve been told on the inside, so take it for what you will.
Well, it wouldn’t be the first time the 3 amigos and their supporting cast did it.
Start a rumor the Pens are looking at replacing Sullivan with a demanding coach like Michel Terrien and see if things improve.
It won’t because it’s the players talent/speed, not the coaching staff.
Testify!!! I’d love to see a true shake up trade, but who would want what the Pens could offer based on performance? The promise when Dubas picked up all these players was they wouldn’t stay just because of fear of losing them for nothing going through waivers. I keep hearing that we don’t have anybody in WBS who is NHL ready, but how many players last night looked like real NHL players? Waive the worst performers and bring up anyone willing to play hard every shift. If someone grabs them off waivers, is it really a loss when they play… Read more »
Petterson for at least a couple reasons. I’d even think of moving Rust after getting through his team restrictions. I’m sure he’s had enough.
The better question is: do we trust Dubas to make any corrections? Most of his moves since taking over as the article mentions have made us worse not better. Can he actually fix the team and make a good trade, or has he been intentionally trying to tank in hopes that players waive their non movement clauses and speed up a rebuild. He’s either really dubious or really poor at scouting..
Spot on!
“There are players available” (for the Penguins to move)…? Who? Time to name names! 🙂 Oh, and moving those players is also supposed to shake them up (somehow)…*and* make them better? I don’t see it. Trading Jake didn’t shake them up (in fact, they groused about it and, arguably, missed the playoffs as a result). And if you do it GMJR style, you’re going to trade picks…? For this group? No. Way. It doesn’t appear there’s a James Neal for Patrick Hornqvist trade available (because theres no James Neal available). I mean, check out the roster. If the Big 3… Read more »
There is certainly something off in that locker room. Several changes are needed to shake things up. I agree whole heartedly that a GMJR type trade would be a good start. Next would be for Dubas to make use of waivers, open up several NHL roster spots for either an entire line or peppered in throughout the line-up. Giving, at minimum, a 9 game stint to Broz, Howe, McGroarty, Poulin and/or Ponomarev would be a change of pace. Probably add Pickering in there on D. Yes, there will be mistakes and there is development needed, but we have almost an… Read more »
Seems like its the team’s culture. Other than Sid a few times, this team seems to accept being spanked by other teams. At least Sid has gotten in the grill of a few other teams players when they take liberties including the scoreboard. This team is way too nice. That culture is on Sullivan. He helped create the mold of this mess, maybe get rid of some of the stick checkers and get some “effers” that actually throw a body check and finish the checks. It’s getting old that other teams start to salivate when the opportunity to play this… Read more »
Haha, I think there are many Pens fans “frustrated and pissy” right now, as well those in the organization. The ‘Just Play’ mentality worked when they could outskate and outscore their opponents, but they do need more Ryan Graves v. Struble and St. Ivany v. Brock Faber. I’m in favor of Ole Time Hockey when the situation calls for it. But let me be clear, I’m not in favor of initiating dirty hits, but they do need a counter for opponents’ indiscretions.
Who’s he gonna trade? Pettersson is the only guy teams would want from this dumpster fire. Eller and Acciari could bring 3rd or 4th rd picks. The guys he should move can’t be moved because of their no movement clauses. The fans wanted another shot for the 3 amigos to make a final run. Dubas got them the reigning 100pt Norris Trophy winner while dumping 4 bad contracts. Other than Sid the rest shit the bed. He’s hamstrung with bad contracts from Hextall. Not much else can be done at this point tbh.
NOTHING will change until he Fires Sully.
My God, how many crappy efforts does it take to get this clown fired?
Even so, what’s the chance anything anything would change? The same players who give half-hearted effort would still be on the ice. Shrug. Gonna have to play out the season. Getting rid of Sullivan would be a mercy firing.
A coach that benches lazy butts would be so refreshing!
Nothing will change until they get younger talent.
Dan, There’s no way GMJR would ever had allowed this to happen without some response. GMJR likely would have had a presser and said that performance was totally unacceptable; EVEREYONE in the organization is responsible and accountable and changes are forthcoming. You NEVER hear or see Dubas – is this acceptable to him? Is this what he was brought here to do? This team is less than mediocre – its been obvious for past few years. To continue inaction is sending a message that its acceptable! Both Carolina and Dallas easily could have scored in the double digits, they didn’t… Read more »
Agreed. MTL already had a bag skate and Pasta got benched for a period. Then again, EK65 was off for a power play or two. 🙂
I thought Sully would have been gone last year after another missed playoff spot. Not many coaches would survive that long. They gutted the front office and kept the coaching staff. This GM doesn’t seem ready for any future rebuilding and the deeper you sink the the longer it takes to bring you back up. Having said that; you need to study who can replace who and their qualifications.
Dan, thanks for paraphrasing what most of us have been saying since the week after FA started. Glad to see you finally agree…
If the goal is to lose as many games as possible to end up at or near the top of the draft for the next two years, I’m fine with that. I said that last year before they went on their year-end streak.
Time to hire an actual GM with a plan.
Sorry man, this is what happens, you fall before you rise again. If you can’t see how much deeper and better our prospect pool is from 2 years ago (true, we lack A+ prospects but thats expected bc how are you gonna get those prospects without top 10 picks?) then I dont know what to tell you. You’re blind. Shake up the team, sure, go for it, but don’t change organizational directions. Give the team the old college try but the priority needs to be on the future. Nothing you can do can turn a core of 38 year olds… Read more »
Crosby has always led by example, but has never been a firebrand or cheerleader. his penguins tenure has been successful when the team had someone to do that in addition to Crosby – Guerin, Hornqvuist, even Zucker to an extent. the team has sorely been lacking that type of player since hornqvist was unceremoniously dumped. and it ain’t EK65.
His tenure was also successful because he had high quality players around him. This is the first time in his career that wasn’t the case (even the early years you could see the path). Now that it’s winding down, I think there’s a need for him to show some… anger/frustration… with the team (like barking on the bench a few games ago). At some point, even folks who aren’t leaders need to step up. Heck, even Sullivan barked at 71 a few seasons ago, yeah? Even with Geno apologizing, again, doesn’t quite cut it. From here, the only player *anyone*… Read more »
Have you ever heard that Mario was yelling at his teammates??
Starting with what we have. Put O’Connor with Lizotte and Acciari and leave them alone. Thats the 4th line. Line 1 Rakell, Crosby and Karlsson ( yes since he’s untradable) Line 2 Bunting, Malkin and Rust. Waive rest of the forwards and call up 3 best forward options. The youth movement has begun. Now for the worst problem the defense. Construct from Letangand Petterson and sign or trade for 2 NHL stay at homes. Keep St.Ivany and Graves (untradable)
Agree. EK65 is completely unacceptable as a “defenseman”
Wing would be the only option he stays in the lineup on a team I was in charge of, but WTF do I know???
Who could they possibly trade for a jolt? Petterson? Pretty much everyone else that could provide that jolt either has limited or no trade protection or a contract that can’t be moved. I see minor moves being made but unless it’s one of the 3 or Karlsson, I can’t see anything major happening.
The younger guys with no-move clauses might be willing to go, if they know it’s going to get ugly for years. Rust seems like a good candidate for that, maybe Rakell. No move/no trade clauses just give the player control over the process, it is not a guarantee they will veto all trades. There’s a few playoff contenders looking for scoring forward help right now.
Crosby shouldn’t have much to say, he’s been terrible more than he’s been good…a total 180 from last year…and he’s my favorite…I knew from the second shift of the game we were getting the “bad” Crosby…lazy line changes, looping in the defensive zone instead of stopping and starting, things we’ve already talked about this year several times…that kind of negative play is contagious… Malkin, on the other hand, has been competing…digging out pucks in the corners, playing more north/south, and he’s been rewarded for his efforts.. We can’t play hard night in and night out…so who’s to blame ?…this team… Read more »
Crosby is playing with a 3rd liner as left wing. And with defensemen behind him not defending and goalie not stopping pucks. He’s a top 5 all time player, not the guy you lean on to stir the pot. No stakes in these games, makes no sense for him to kill himself. He’s letting dubas know it ain’t working
I think it’s time Sullivan goes. Don’t replace him with Quinn or velucci either. We need a major authoritarian to come in and take charge. Waivers to all. Trade Eller for the 3rd or 4th so be it. If people want out let them go unfortunately the time has come.
Sell Mortimer! Sellllll!!!
Why did they trade for Mcgroraty if he can’t skate.